
In the midst of prepping for their official CD release party on Saturday, January 15th at the Khyber in Philadelphia, Jason Mcbride and Marc Chartier of Run Away from the Humans took time out for a Q&A with Sonic Slang to discuss the electronica revival, the fabulous Ashlee Simpson and the indie rock renaissance.
Tell us a little about how you guys got together.
Chartier: Jason and I met when I was visiting Philly (from Seattle) for a friend’s wedding. Well, my wife and I ended up moving to the Philly area and we hung out quite a bit with Jason and his girl. Although we both had played in bands in high school and college, neither of us was playing music at the time we met. Jason was the first to get the bug and started playing with some old high school buddies of his. Soon after, they needed an extra guitar player so I was brought into the mix. After playing for a few months together we found that we shared the same vision for the sound of our (old) band – which was totally different than what was happening at the time. To make a long story short, we quit the old project and that’s how we ended up starting RAFTH.
McBride: Then things just really started to take off for this little project of ours. I had switched over to writing the electronic stuff and just out of pure adrenaline we went on this massive writing spree for about a month, which gave us enough material for a small set of songs. Before we knew it we got Brian involved and then just a couple of months later we were working on the EP and playing shows. I’m really happy that we didn’t waste any time getting to where we are now.
The RAFTH sound is by many accounts, very much on the cutting edge of popular music today. How do you account for the recent retro/electronica craze in certain musical circles, particularly indie rock?
McBride: Probably the same reason why anything else becomes popular, it’s just a recycling of what people like to listen to. I think people in the indie community are a bit more sophisticated with their music and it might just come from a desire to hear something new. But so many artists have paved the way for this and it’s not just a recent occurrence. I mean maybe it took a larger act like Radiohead to switch over and cause a spike in interest, but this has been a growing thing for some time. Aside from the recycling theory, to me it’s more about this being music that is still evolving, where as rock seems to be at a real stalemate. Even though it’s great music...fantastic music, most things have been done right? I do think there’s a difference from what we’re doing as opposed to a lot of newly popular rock bands that are incorporating the synth to make it sound retro or 80s. That seems like a technique to juice the rock up, where as we try to revolve everything around the electronic sounds and not the other way around.
Chartier: I think the recent interest in electronic - I hate to say 80s or “retro” - music is mostly attributable to people wanting to hear new things. I’ve recently gained interest in the electronic stuff mainly because it is a great avenue for music that is still evolving. I guess it’s easy to give it a retro tag because most of the music in the 80s was centered around the electronic stuff as compared to having the electronic music complement standard instruments. I think we’ll see some great new developments in music in the next few years as electronic music continues to evolve.
And more on indie rock: What are your thoughts on the recent surge in popularity for the indie rock scene in general? Does this reflect a lack of quality in the mainstream?
McBride: If there’s a recent surge; assuming you’re talking about how once smaller indie bands like Modest Mouse are making such a splash on popular radio these days; I think it’s great. To give credit to musicians like them, the songs they’re writing are catchy and have a real unique quality to them. That to me is the reason they’ve become so refreshing to listen to. I’m sure many people would agree that a lot of the popular alternative music these days has lost the individual/unique flare that was there just 5-6 years ago. So maybe people are resorting to the indie scene to hear a better variety of sounds now.
Chartier: I love the recent popularity of the indie sound. Today I think indie is more often associated with a certain type or brand of music as opposed to...like...a lo-fi or low budget “independent” project. As far as the cause for its popularity, that’s a tough one. For me, I like that sound because as a regular person I can relate much more to indie bands and their music. It seems more real to me and less contrived as say a Nickelback, Ashlee Simpson, or Puddle of Mud (laughs).
McBride: Speak for yourself, Ashlee Simpson is fabulous.
Ok, so what's been a highlight for you guys, as a band, performing in Philadelphia?
Chartier: The Philly music scene is... how should I say this...growing? There are a lot of cool bands and kids around, but all scenes sort of come and go through the years. Being relatively new to Philly, I initially got the impression that the city was mostly known for hip-hop and regular old “rock and roll”. But after going to a few shows, I realized that it’s pretty cool here. The kids and bands are definitely here, and it’s just a matter of getting them all out. Maybe it’s just me, but I’ve noticed more and more interest in the indie sound in Philly in the last year or so.
McBride: We did a show with Dogs Die in Hot Cars recently. That was probably my favorite because the whole night was a great party, just a fun time.
What type of musical background did each of you come from to come up with the RAFTH sound?
Chartier: What really makes this project fun is that we not only come from very different musical backgrounds, but our instruments are also relatively new to us. I mean, I’ve played guitar for years, but never actually seriously in a band or anything. I played bass in all of my previous bands, with the exception of the short-lived band that we were a part of prior to RAFTH. Playing guitar in this project has been a great experience. All the different effects and pedals and stuff have opened so many new doors for me.
McBride: I’ve been all over the map, but the main influence for this sound right now was the time I spent in the 90s as a House DJ. I guess a mixture of acid, hard, and deep house that I’ve always kept up with combined with a lot of the other electronic projects out there and the influence that they’ve had over me. And, you have to mention the rock too because that’s important as well… everything from Manchester to early 90’s indie/alternative.
Do you guys have any musical heroes? Who are you most influenced by?
McBride: With vocals my all time favorite is Neil Tennant of Pet Shop Boys. When the vibe is right in their songs, his voice sounds so angelic. I’ve been a huge fan forever. I love Ian Brown’s (Stone Roses) voice as well. Those two guys are probably who I’ve always enjoyed the most. Aside from vocalists I like Kevin Sheilds, U2, Massive Attack, Depeche Mode, Air, listening to a good DJ like Josh Wink, Carl Cox, or DB spin records...all sorts of stuff.
Chartier: The guy that immediately comes to mind for me would be Jonny Greenwood, amazing guitar player and effects wizard. I’ve only seen Radiohead live once, but during that show, I realized how much of a champ that dude is. I also like that he sort of flies under the radar among this huge music industry.
If you had to pick a favorite track on the EP, what is it and why?
McBride: "Lost My Way" is probably my favorite track. I enjoy everything about that one: the vocals, the beats, the guitars, and the vocoder in the chorus. It’s just a quick and catchy little electro pop song. That one and maybe "Wake Up" are probably the two that people seem to like the most. Some of the newer stuff that we are working on now is geared towards that "Lost My Way" style. I’m sure that when we finally do our full length in the near future we’ll have a few more house songs like that on it.
Chartier: Yeah, for me it’s a toss up between "Wake Up" and "Lost My Way". For sake of making this interesting, I’ll say "Wake Up" is my favorite. It’s a real good mix of several different styles of music - more outright rock than most of our stuff, but it works into our sound real well. Most of our new songs keep that mix of musical styles but are heading more in the… I guess you call it “house” or “party” type direction. It’s really fun to play that kind of music live.
What has local reaction to your debut EP been?
Chartier: So far the reaction has been great. The reviews that we received have all been very positive. Our intention when initially recording the EP was to just have a good recording to use to book shows and stuff with. After weighing out our options in the studio, we realized with a little more time and money we could get something of much better quality than just a demo. So we ran with it and now we’re pretty happy with the outcome.
McBride: Everything that I’ve heard so far is a positive reaction for the most part. For the amount of experience we had as a group we really pulled the first EP off in great time. Like 3-4 months or so after we had finished forming the trio. We’re all pretty happy with the sound quality for 2 days of recording and 4 days of mixing and mastering. I also really think the art played a big roll too, at least in getting people interested in listening. Lee Garnett who is a good friend and an artist that I usually trust for these things came through with a great simplistic and stylish design for it. It makes you want to listen to it.
Ok, the name, any significance to it?
Chartier: No. The name has zero significance, but we all love it. I actually came up with the name in a dream. We were brainstorming names all over the place for a couple weeks and I actually dreamt that we named our band ‘run away from the humans’. When I woke up, I had the reaction that almost everyone has - I laughed, and liked it. After mentioning it as a joke to Jason, he was into it, so it stuck.
McBride: We had several names that we had floated around before RAFTH that I don’t want to mention (haha). I’m really glad we all decided on that one because to me it really reflects what kind of group that we are. It’s not traditional sounding in the least, there’s no chance of the name sounding like any other band, it’s got a great short version for people to say (The Humans), and it’s kind of got that “we don’t take ourselves that seriously/comical” kind of thing going on, which is important to us. It’s fun, and I guess that goes well with a band that writes about cute girls in Burberry outfits and Risk (some of our current projects).
So what's in store for the future of RAFTH? Any plans yet for a full-length? How about signing to an indie or major label, if the opportunity presents itself? You all have day jobs outside of RAFTH. Do you hope to make this a full-time endeavor?
McBride: Things have been moving pretty fast for us ever since we started promoting We Exist. We have a few short-term goals right now. We’re concentrating a lot on PR, getting the EP to print and radio to spread the word about RAFTH. We’re also playing a lot of shows to promote the songs on there. We’ve been playing out every other week since early Fall and plan on continuing until our CD release party. After that, aside from a few shows up in NYC, we’re taking a month off from playing out just to write. We’d like to have the material ready if we decide to put out a full length in the summer of 2005.
Chartier: Making this a full-time endeavor is definitely a goal of ours, but we’re realistic as well. There are a lot of great bands out there and to get anywhere you have to work very hard and to some extent get kinda lucky. Right now though, we are taking this pretty seriously in hopes that we can someday quit the nine to five routine and focus solely on RAFTH.
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